( Please note, the earlier tree is a work in progress as the line is researched , see lineage below- the later tree (1700s ) however is correct)
Thanks for Saskia for their assistance see below :
I haven’t read through everything yet, but I, too, am a descendant of Jacobus du Moulin from Brugge/Schoondijke, and I would like to point you toward a possible (transcription?) error wrt his wife Esther. She was NOT, as far as I now know, named ‘DECRE’ but rather ‘TESSIER’, as I found in the Dutch East India (VOC) log for son Jacobus du Moulin, who died June 16, 1776 in Asia (you mentioned him). In the log he is mentioned as being from Schoondijke, and in three instances it is noted that his earnings should be paid out to his “mother Ester Tessier”. Once I was set on this track I researched the name Tessier in the Zeeland archives, and indeed found confirmation in the form of papers wrt the death of Pierre (aka Pieter) TESSIER in 1742. The documents mention his children, and among them is daughter Esther, married to Jacobus du Moulin. A sister Adriana is married to Bernardus du Moulin, possibly a brother to Jacobus.
Pierre Tessier (1669-1742) was an important member & representative of the French/Wallone (Hugenot) community in l’Ecluse/Sluis in Zeeland. He possibly married Elisabet GEERZYN in 1704; presumably another Hugenot, but so far I have been unable to find the original French name.
Hope all this helps you in further tracking down the family.
history of du moulin family – the Brabant , Belgium connection and origins in FRANCE .
Du Moulin crest noted as an eagle , wings indorsed, preying on an infant swaddled
French Origins :
The Du Moulin family orgininated in Moulin “The Mill of the Bourbons” in Bourbonnaise, France, and from Moulin la Marche , just west of Moulin.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_de_Moulins-la-Marche
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moulins,_Allier
” Moulin” ,The flemish called the place Moulen hence the flemish version of Du Moulin is Van Der Meulen. The american immigrants of the Du Moulin family used only Vermeule after the 1600s.Until the 16th century the aristocratic families used the french name of Du Moulin in court and it’s flemish translation in business.
In the 13th century the family related to the Houses of the Dukes of Bourbon and the Dukes of Burgundy and formed one of the historic families of France. The Burgundy line was associated with Holland , Germany , Austria and Flanders which is our line of Du Moulin.
Our Du Moulin line lived in France , England and in the dutch province of Brabant.The Duchy of Brabant consists of the provinces of Brabant , Antwerp , Brussels , and North Brabant in the Netherlands.
The 10th generation Du Moulin of this branch of some note included the two brothers* Andre and Daniel Du Moulin . Our branch appears to be the protestant branch which is not to say there were not practicing anglicans in there somewhere. According to some research, the protestant branch was Mignaux and Lorne -Grenier. Most consider Charles Du Moulin ( jurist ) ( see further down the post for Charles ) from this protestant branch found in Orleans and Sedan France.
*Andre Du Moulin/Andries Van Der Meulen `1549-1611 ( Lord of Milleghem and Ranst), and his brother : Daniel the Lord of Anseghem . Both brothers were prominent figures , owning ships and high in the counsels of the Prince of Orange. ( our Jacobus Du Moulin would go on to volunteer with the Diutch army led by the Prince of Orange William I August 1831 in the battle of Hasselt. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Orange
14th Century: In about 1385 the Netherlands came under the rule of Phillip the Bold (Duke of Burgendy) . We can find the Du Moulin family in Antwerp up to about 1570. Where in the family was known as Van der Meulen . They are the lords of Millighem. ( Dutch province of Brabant and Maline ).The earlier family still held the name of Du Moulin. The coat of arms is the lion with red claws. ( Which differs to the crest at the beginning of this post )
16th and 17th century: French Huguenots :
French Huguenots were french protestants most of whom eventually came to follow the teachings of Calvin and who due to religious persecution were forced to flee france in the 16th and 17th centuries. 1562- some 1200 Huguenots were slain at Vassey , France thus igniting the French wars of religion , which would devastate France for the next 35 years.
In France when Louis XIV was born it was proclaimed a divine birth matching that of Jesus by the Cardinal . And when his father Louis XIII passed away these Cardinals set in place that laws of France until Louis XIV ( reign 1643-1715)became of age , NO HUGUENOT allowed. Many of the Du Moulin line were HUGUENOT and the king forced these non desirables out of France, sometimes with brutal force. Louis XIV declared war on Holland( protestant ) even though France supported Holland prior. This would have influenced any protestant Du Moulins to leave France.
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Our great great great grandfather Jacobus Adriannus Du Moulin came out to Australia in 1834 with his wife and 11 children, and his wife’s mother Grace Davidson (b. 1765)who died in 1838 . Jacobus was a surgeon with the 5oth regiment and came out with a prisoner ship to Sydney.
Jacobus Du moulin copy from old photo made after 1882?
Back of Jacobus Photo – Royal Arcade Sydney opened in 1882
______________________________________________________________The Ancestry /Lineage of Jacobus A. Du Moulin
10th Century : 990 : The Moulin La Marche line of Du Moulin.
11th century(1040/1050): Guitmund des Moulin la Marche /Guimond Moulins – A Monk ( and norman solider ?)under William 1st’s reign (Duchy of Normandy ( Mortagne-au-Perche region ) m. Emma Guimond Moulins. nine known children: eight sons who almost all were banished* by William 1st ( Duke of Normandy, William the Bastard ) 6 to southern Italy , and a daughter (Alebreda)who married a powerful Norman lord, Raoul Taisson and after then to William ‘s cousin William de Falaise . In return William’s cousin became de Falaise des Moulin la Marche by title .
https://www.geni.com/people/Guillaume-de-Falaise-seigneur-de-Moulins-la-Marche/6000000014151666656.
http://www.chateau-guillaume-leconquerant.fr/
See castle for Guillam De Falaise above. Moulin la Marche !
Guitmund was the castellan of the castle of Robert the devil and betrayed his lord by handing over the castle to King Henry of France in 1054.One/two sons of his went to Brabant/Antwerp. (Guillam ). It is possible that Guitmond owned Bons Moulin forest , La Marche( & castle of La Marche ) and the Castle of Moulin in Oren, Toward the end of his life he was the Bishop of Bec.
The Du Moulin sons ( italy )were by title through the de Falaise connection. ( Thanks to Michael Mullen for lots of information ). (The Moulins gave the region Molise , in southern Italy it’s name ).
*William 1st asked Guitmund to gain control of Normandy and England and Guitmund refused. Guitmund also gave the castle of Robert the Devil **which he was in charge of to France and his sons conspired to over throw William and this made William furious. William the Conquerer displaced the property of des Moulin to his liking to include the church of St. Evroult of Maheru.
Castle of Robert the Devil:**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Robert_le_Diable“An alternative view states that the castle was owned and guarded by the de Moulins, later the Molyneux family who were loyalists of William the Conqueror, and it was rebuilt in 1378 by a descendant from William de Molineux, the Lord of Sefton, in Lancashire, one of the followers of William the Conqueror.[1]“
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13th century onwards: This Du Moulin line were mostly esquires, knights and some held position in the Catholic Church before the Reformation. There were two distinct lines of these Du Moulins – either just south of Paris or near Alsace.
- #1 gen Pierre Du Moulin 1253-1323 m. jenne Doisi
- #2 Pierre Du Moulin Esq. 1286 – 1356 m. Marie de Courcelles
- # 3Nicolas Du Moulin 1319-1389 m. Jenne de Haulthy ,Jean Du Moulin 1350 son?
- #4 Pierre Du Moulin 1352 -1422 m. Catherine de Cambrogue – nicol, pierre and stassart were children
- #5 Pierre Du Moulin 1385-1455 m. Marie Surcamp, Guillam and Jean sons.Jean Du Moulin d. 1495 Ultrecht ( son of Pierre Du Moulin and Marie De Surcamp)
- #6(1418-1496)Guillaume du Moulin , m Lady Louise de Carondelet, Lady of Aubois ( This William was of the family who were the Lords of Milighem in Antwerp Bradant /maline.) Knight, noble of King Louis VX1. One son named Jacques
| Stassart ( Cornelius Jan Van Der Meulen)citizen of Zeeland In1466- Middleburg Zeeland , Hollland ( changed his name from Du Moulin). Described as a knight , m. Isabeaude Builiengheim) – relation to Stassart (gen 5)from Pierre Du Moulin generation _______________________________________________________ | |||
- #7Jacques Du Moulin 1451-1521 noble of the king m. Jenne Moen. Children: Jean and Eilie. Research shows there should be at least two other sons, Pierre/Pieter, Knight Schepen of Antwerp, and Cornelius.
- #8Jean Du Moulin 1481-1554, knight , m. Catherine Van Aerssens. Children: Jean and Andre.Emilie Du Moulin was lady of honour to the empress, wife of the emperor Charles V.
- #9Jean Du Moulin 1517-1587 , Knight, m. Elizabeth Legers m 1545 Antwerp Cathedral. Children : Annie, Andre, Sara, Daniel and John.
- #10Andre Du Moulin 1549-1611 ( Lord of Milleghem and Ranst), Councillor to he Duke of Anjou , Deputy of the province of Brabant. m. 1583 @Antwerp to Lady Susanne de Basentin called de Malaport. He changed his name to Van der Meulen. There is still in Holland a fine chaced silver cup given by the city of Antwerp to Andre for his services to the city.
- and his brother : Daniel the Lord of Anseghem( banker).…. Daniel Van der Meulen 1550- 1600( died from the plague 1600)Daniel was a powerful Merchant and the youngest surviving child of . At the time of his death he was the seventh wealthiest in inhabitant in Leiden. He was a friend of the Prince of Orange, Executor to the mother and widow of St. Aldegonde, Ambassador to Denmark. Also in 1598 was asked to arbitrate between Spanish rulers and the states of the Netherlands.
- One of his fellow merchants was Jacques della Faille and there are many letters survived from the time between merchants including Daniel. Daniel moved to the northern low countries and in 1591 traded his residence in Bremen for the university town of Leiden . Daniel was close to becoming ambassador to France for the united colonies, but did not get the job. Daniel and his siblings desired to return to Antwerp. Daniel married Hester Della Faille.Hester Van der Muelen (de Molyn) (born Della Faille)Hester Van der Muelen (de Molyn) (born Della Faille) was born to Jean de la Faille and Cornélie de la Faille-van der Capellen.Jean was born in 1515, in Juliaans, Antwerpen.Cornélie was born in 1517, in Antwerpen.Hester had one sister: Maria de Malapert-de la Faille.Hester married Daniël Van der Muelen (de Molyn).
- Many of the ven der meulens fled the low country after the abdication of Charles V and fled Antwerp to the north .
- Marten Della Faille was Hester’s brother who gained a position on the admiralty board of Archduke Albert in 1596. 1614 he rose to nobility to Baron De Neule.
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THE ZEELAND LINE: Line of Descent
- #8 Gen. (1484-1554) CorneLieus Van Der Meulen , son of Lord jacques and Lady Jenne ( Moen)Du Moulin had sons: Jan, Adrian & Nicholas(b antwerp), children of sons found in Zeeland.
- #9 Jan Van der Meulen b.1515 lived Antwerp- had children between 1545 &1565 viz., Cornelius , Symon,Jacques ( or jacob0 , Marten, Janneke, Elizabeth , Andries, Hans.Jan left Antwerp c. 1567 and travelled to Arneaiden in Zeeland. C1574 (via Ghent). His son Jacob had a daughter at Flushing 1572 – after this town was captured by the Protestant “Water Beggers” .His son Andries became councillor, magistrate and treasurer of Middleburg*. A city of the Prince of Orange with who this family was evidently influential.
- (* Johannes Du Moulin lived in Middleburg. (our 4 x great grandfather ) hence there is a ZEELAND connection! (18th century))
- #10 Cornelis Jan Van der Meulen b. 1540 Antwerp- became a citizen of Arneuiden Zeeland, 1577. His children: Jan and Cornelis. It is thought the came to Zeeland with the protestant “Water – Beggers” , but later returned to Catholicism and to Antwerp. The tomb of Cornelis Vermeulen in Antwerp Cathedral is believed to be his.
- #11 Jan Cornelissen Vermeule b. @ Ghent 1567-D1622 ( Goes). By his 4th wife Tanneke Cornelis he ahd Cornelis, Adriana, Tanneke, aycken, Sanneke.
- #12 Cornelis Jans Vermeule b. at Goes 1609 . Children: Cathelynken b1632, Jan Cornelissen 1695. The family moved to Flushing* /Vlissingen . Plus 2 other sons, Wiliam and Cornelius. * Our Jacobus Du Moulin studied medicine in Walcheron near Flushing.
- #13 Jan Cornelissen Vermeule 1634 d. 1713 @ Vlissingen, children: Cornelis , Adrian, Tan and Magdaleentje. Jan C was elder of the church 1686-1713. A well of Burgher
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Then….there was ….. the french Du Moulin Huguenot connection. No direct relationship line has been found.
Charles Du Moulin 1500-1566:( Charles was a lawyer and a bitter enemy of feudalism) He was supposedly directly related to Anne Boleyn( cousin ?) – wife of King Henry VIII ,and mother of the first Queen Elizabeth. Charles wanted to restore the true character of the feudal relationship in his fight against feudalism as it was in his time.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dumoulin
Charles , (born Paris ), was a French Jurist and Calvinist who went to Germany when the protestants were being persecuted. He taught law, at Strasbourg, Dole and Besancon after having first taught law in 1521.He returned to France in 1557 and after writing against the “Council of Trent” – high Roman Catholic council in Italy – he was imprisoned until 1564 and died in Paris in 1566.
Charles is still remembered in Legal History and his “Treatise on Contracts and Usury” 1546, Paris, attacked the very basis of the Usury doctrine. 1545 King Henry VIII allowed interest to be charged on loans. However interest on loans was forbidden by divine law. Charles proposed the regulation of interest rates by public authorities. As a result of his Treatise, he had to seek refuge aqt German Universities. He was declared a Heretic and his book was condenmed to be burned.
1525: King Francois 1st was imprisioned by the Spanish Court, he abdicated his french throne in favour of his son Fancois but the royal edit was set aside by the court Judge – Charles Du Moulin. ( Who established the precedent that Kings of France has to be native – born ).
Charles’ Death 1566: From: ‘ A new history of ecclesistical writers”: Charles converted to the Catholic Church on his death bed. He was affiliated at his death by Claudius Efpeneaus Lr Cort, curate of St. Andrews and Rene Bonelle , Principal of Du Pleffis College. He was buried at St Andrew’s church yard at eight at night without any funeral pomp, preceded only with 2 lighted torches, ( with dignitaries , including the the Biship of Paris ). He left 2 sons by his first wife, one that carried his own name. Whole son died without children, and a daughter named Ann Moulin who married to Simon Bobe ( advocate in Parliment, Bailliof Colomiers in Brie).
- A son: Joachim Du Moulin 1538 – 1618 ( to be confirmed ) m. Jacqueline du Plessis, nee Gabet ( The widow of Jacques Du Plessis) b. 1552.Joachim was a French Reformed ( Huguenot ) pastor in the Orleans region of France. He moved his family to Sedan, a city in the Ardennes that had become a haven for Protestant refugees during the sixteenth century Wars of Religion in France.
The Huguenots were members of the Protestant Reformed Church of France during the 16th and 17th centuries. French protestants were inspitred by the writings of John Calvin in the 1530’s. By the end of the 17th century , roughly 200,000 huguenots had fled France during a series of religious persecutions. They relocated to Protestant nations, such as England, Wales, Denmark, Switzerland, the Dutch Republic. , the elecorate of Brandenburg, electorate of the Palatinate , the Duchy of Prussia , and also to the Dutch Cape Colony in South Africa and the English 13 colonies of North America.
In 1560 Sedan was declared independent from France. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_of_Sedan :
By 1579 The Academy of Sedan was founded – it was the chief Huguenot Academy.This Academy is where Pierre Du Moulin , Joachim’s son , was educated. The Academy was closed down in 1681 by Louis XIV.
Joachim died in Buhy, val-D’Oise, Id de France, France. ( Buhy is now a commune in Northern France, today with only 295 population ). I would like to find out the significance of Buhy’s history.
It is believed that Joachim had 5 children in total ,including Esther ,born around 1565.
- Son: Pierre Du Moulin 1568 – 1658 ( Pierre the Devine ) Bishop of Paris m. Marie De Coliqnamb/Colignam.1570- d. 1622. Pierre was a Huguenot Minister, France. He was appointed a prendary at Canterbury Cathedral in 1615, Stall IV.
Pierre was born in Buhy ,18/10/1568 in Northern France, where his father had temporarily taken refuge and was acting as chaplain to Pierre de Puhy, brother , of the so called Huguenot Pope Phillipe de Mornay. (Phillipe de Mornay (1549-1623) also known as the Seigneur du Plessis Marly Du Plessis- Mornay- (Joachim was related as an in law to the Du Plessis family from his wife’s former husband. )Phillipe was a french protestant writer and member of the Monarchomauqes ( killer of kings).
Some ancestry says that Pierre’s father died in 1568 , yet there is also record that the parents fled when he was 4 years old(1572) to avoid the St. Barholomew massacres. ( Charles IX who was only a teenager was influenced by the catholics and cried ” Kill them all” – speaking of the Huguenots in Paris.) They left their four children in the charge of an old nurse at Coeurves near Scissons .It is my belief that Joachim died in 1615- to be confirmed.
The massacre started Aug 23/1572 and the first to be killed was Gasgard de Coligny ( military leader of the Huguenots ). 10,000 protestants were killed in Paris and 100,000 in the french provinces. Pierre and his family were very lucky ( and of course priveledged with their connections ) to survive!
The story goes that Pierre’s cries were concealed under a mattress on the murderers’ approach, would have attracted attention had not the nurse rattled her pots and pans pretending to be cleaning them, and had not his sister, Esther (7) covered his mouth .
In 1588 Pierre’s father , harrassed by persecution, dismissed his son with 12 crowns bidding him seek his fortunes in England. There he was befriended by Menillet who afterwards married his sister and the Countess of Rutland sent him as a tutor to her son to Cambridge where he continued his studies under Whitaker.
1592 He embarked on a trip to Holland on a visit to Professor Junius of Leyden ( Holland), but was shipwrecked off Walcheren losing all his books and other possessions, a disaster which inspired his latin poem: “Votiva Fabella”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiden_University( Leiden University- Institure for Cultural Disciplines )http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscus_Junius_(the_elder)( Prof. Junius in the above article was professior of theology at Leiden in 1892).Pierre became Professor of Theology at Leiden University, Grotius was one of his pupils and Scaliger he lodged with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Grotius
1598: Pierre went to visit his father at Jargean and was induced to enter the ministry for which he had undergone preparatory training while in London. After a farewell visit to Leiden, he took temporary duty at Blois and in March 1599 was appointed to Charenton . He accompanied as chaplain Catherine De Bourbois, Henry IV’s sister to Lorraine. On her deathbed in 1604 Cardinal du Perron ( sent by Henry IV) attempted to have her change her religion to Catholic – Pierre was at her side – and she would not change, and Pierre would not leave her bedside. ( Catherine was Henry IV’s half sister , the daughter of his father’s second wife, Constance of Castile).
Du Moulin’s house in Paris was the resort of French and foreign protestants, Andrew Melville staying there until 1611. It was twice pillaged by mobs and he himself had narrow escapes from violence.
In 1615 his fellow countryman Sir Theodore Mayerne recommended him to James 1st. who required a French Divine to assist him in his “Begis Declaratio pro Jure Regio” and fetched him over ot London. James took him with him to Cambridge where he was made D.D. and gave him a benifice in Wales and a prebend at Canterbury, each worth 200 pounds a year. After a three months stay he returned to Paris.
In 1619 James who had consulted with him on his scheme of protestant union gave him a pension chargeable on the Deanery of Salisbury.In 1620 Edward Herbert first Lord Herbert of Cherbury, British Ambassador at Paris pressed him to write to James on behalf of the elector palatin. Du Moulin reluctantly agreed, but the letter was intercepted or accord , to another version, was treacherously divulged by Buckinham and its exhortations to James to justify the hopes placed in him by continent protestants were construed as incitements to a foreign sovereign to interfere in French affairs.
Du Moulin by Herbert’s advise, fled to Sedan where the Duke of Boullion appointed him tutor to his son pastor of the church and prefessor of theology at the academy. In 1623 he revisited England . In 1628 he was allowed to return to Charenton which charge he occupied for 21 years . But finding his position once again dangerous he withdrew first to the Hague and then to Sedan – continued to preach and lecture until his death 10/3/1658.
Pierre married Marie de Colognen (d. 1622) in 1599 and then to Sarah De Geslay in 1623.With Marie he had two children : Lewis and Peter b. 24/4/1601.
The autobiography of Pierre to 1644 , family copy, is at the Library of the History of French Protestantism Society at Paris , printed in a bulletin in 1858.
He was one of the first French protestants who ignored and evidently discredited the Pope Joan of England. “Elementa Logica” went through many editions and was translated into English 1624.
The Du Moulin clan constituted the Highest French Protestant Aristocracy .
Highlights: Pierre Du Moulin
Tutor to the Earl of Rutland 1592 at Cambridge ( Pierre trained in Cambridge and London). 1592: Professor of Philosophy and Greek at the University of Leiden. 1598: Returned to France.1599 -1620:Appointment as the Pastor of the New Reformed Church at Charenton , France. ( Although he was in England by 1615).
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( Protestant temples were not allowed in Paris and so Parisiennes would travel to Charenton to worship). 1606, the King allowed the Parisiennes to build a protestant chapel at Charenton. In 1621 the first chapel was burnt down in heretical fury.
During his pastorship at Charenton, Pierre travelled to England and received a Doctorate in Divinity at Cambridge.( He was invited to England in 1615 by James 1st ). In 1620 Pierre was a tutor to the son of the Duke of Bouillon and became Pastor of the Church and Professor of Theology at Sedan , ( Sedan Academy), France , 1620-1654.He returned to England in 1624 and was offered a cure in the Church of England – St. John the Baptist church of Chester, but he declined the offer, and spent the rest of his day at Sedan in France. Pierre had a reputation as a great Orator and he wrote many religious works.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Bouillon
It is understood that Pierre had a total of 18 children. ( 10 with his second wife ).
- Pierre ( 1601-1684), Esther (1603-1638), Lewis (1605-1680),Cyrus(1608-1670), Marie (1613-1699),Henri ( 1634-1679), Daniel (1636) , Marthe ( d.1699).
- Marie Du Moulin:
- Cyrus Du Moulin:
- Son: Pieter Du Moulin 1601 – 1684 m. Anne Calver(1606-1678) in 1633. ( Married England ). Anne was of Foscott , Buckinghamshire.
Peter was born 24/4/1601 in Paris. He died 10/10/1684 and was buried at Canterbury Cathedral . His siblings includes Cyrus Du Moulin who was a french pastor at Canterbury.Peter was regarded as an anglican divine who studied at Sedan and Leiden, and received a degree of D.D. at Cambridge. In 1625 he was appointed to St. John’s of Chester .( Peter previous to this had been a prisoner at Dunkirk ). 1640 he was the D.D. at Leiden. Also rector of Witherley Leichestershire in 1633 and of Wheldrake , Yorkshire in 1641. During the First English Civil war he was first in Ireland as tutor in the Boyle family, and was next tutor at Oxford to the sons of Richard Boyle, 1st Earl of Burlington, Charles Boyle, 3rd Viscount Dungarvan and Richard Boyle (d. 1665) , frequently preaching at St Peter in the East in Oxford. He was recotr of Adisham , Kent, from 1646( with a short intermission in 1660 on the reinstatement of John Oliver ) until his death.
- Peter had a son , Jehan Du Moulin b about 1634, who had a daughter Jaine De maline b . 1656 ( abt) and a son John Demaline b.1654.
- Son: Lewis Du Moulin married Rebecca Taylor. Another son.
- Cyrus Du Moulin: It has been noted that Cyrus Du Moulin was another son of Pierre Du Moulin.
This represents possible french protestant connection to Du Moulin. The Zeeland line below cannot yet be directly connected.
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ZEELAND Direct lineage
Lambertus Du Moulin b.+/- 1696 M. Joanna Paternoster, Bruge, Belgium b.+/- 1700. Son Jacobus
- Jacobus Du Moulin b. +/- 1722 married Esther Decre b. before 1739, and had a daughter Adriaantje 1755-1829 m. Hendrik Machielse b. abt 1765-1829 had a son :Leendert Machielse 1793- before 1859. There is a Jacobus du Moulin( uit Schoondijke) who joins The Dutch East India company as second medical master with chamber Zeeland on the Westerveld ship bound for Batavia 1768. june 1777 Jacobus Du Moulin deceased Asia. ( is this the same ?)
- Jacobus , a son Johannes( +/- b.1757-) m. Johanna OOle , Middleburg, Zeeland, Holland.Son Johannes(1757-) is our great x 4 grandfather.
Johannes had three sons:
- Peter David Du Moulin b. 1787? – documents have revealed that Peter David may not have been the brother of Jacobus A!
- Andrew Du Moulin,
- Jacobus Adrianus 28/9/1777 – 18/1/1839 m Jane Davidson 1792 – 1871.
- Also John Johann Cornelius Du Moulin b.1790.
Jacobus’s brother Andrew was a Lieutenant in the 43rd regiment .( Obviously the sons all moved to England). He retired on half pay in 1802. The 43rd ( Monmouthshire) regiment of foot was raised in 1741 in Winchester, and known as the 43rd in 1748. This regiment returned to North America in 1774 until 1781 throughout the American war of independence and was present at the Yorktown surrender . Then the regiment returned to the West Indies in 1794 to capture for the second time Martinique and St. Lucia which following the peace treaty of 1763 had been returned to France. They were then defeated by the french in 1794 after three months stand off.
In a letter dated 9th October 1918 from Lt. Col. du Moulin of Fishbourne, Chichester, Sussex) some information has been found.
Francis Louis Du Moulin MC ( Jacobus’s great grandson) was Lt. Colonel , 1st Battalion, Yorkshire regiment, 21st Division. Killed in action 7th November 1918. ( He enlisted in New Zealand )Son of Louis Eugene and Katherine Parrell Du Moulin of Fishbourne Lodge, Fishbourne. Awarded the Military Cross . Buried in Belaimont Communal Cemetary F. 935. ( From the Roll of Honour Fishbourne War Memorial). Francis ( Frank)Louis was the son of Louis Eugene who died in the Boar war 1902. Louis Eugene Du Moulin wrote a book entitled “Two Years on Trek”.
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Jacobus Arianus Du Moulin our 3 x Great Grandfather.28/9/1777 – 18/1/1839
Jacobus Adrianus Du Moulin 50th regiment
French Army:
Jacobus and his father Johannes /Johan (1757-) were in the French Revolutionary Army from 1793 onwards. ( It is possible that Johan was a surgeon and Jacobus would have been a training surgeon).
The French Revolutionary Army (French: Armée révolutionnaire française) was the French force that fought the French Revolutionary Wars from 1792 to 1802. These armies were characterised by their revolutionary fervour, their poor equipment and their great numbers.( Active till 1804). The revolutionary armies successfully expelled foreign forces from French soil and then overran many neighboring countries, establishing client republics. Leading generals included Jourdan, Bonaparte, Masséna and Moreau.
Battle Of Valmy
At the Battle of Valmy on 20 September 1792, the Revolutionary forces defeated Brunswick’s( Austro – Prussian) advance guard, causing the invading army to begin retreating to the border. Much of the credit to the victory must go to the French artillery, widely viewed as the best in Europe thanks to the technical improvements of Jean Baptiste Vaquette de Gribeauval.
Jacobus and his father took part in the action at Valmy (1792) .This was the first victory of the army of France during the revolutionary wars after the French Revolution against the Prussian and Habsburg Monarchy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Valmy
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While the Cannonade of Valmy had saved the Republic from imminent destruction and caused its enemies to take pause, the guillotining of Louis XVI in January 1793 and the convention’s proclamation that it would ‘export the revolution‘ hardened the resolve of France’s enemies to destroy the Republic and reinstate a monarchy.
Levée en masse 1793- Carnot
- “From this moment until such time as its enemies shall have been driven from the soil of the Republic all Frenchmen are in permanent requisition for the services of the armies. The young men shall fight; the married men shall forge arms and transport provisions; the women shall make tents and clothes and shall serve in the hospitals; the children shall turn linen into lint; the old men shall betake themselves to the public squares in order to arouse the courage of the warriors and preach hatred of kings and the unity of the Republic”[5]
All unmarried able bodied men aged between 18 and 25 were to report immediately for military service. Those married, as well as the remaining men, women and children, were to focus their efforts on arming and supplying the army. Essentially Jacobus and his father had little choice but to serve in or for the army.
By 1804 Jacobus went to England to live – this was the year that the first french empire was established under Napoleon the first. Jacobus joined the British army in England.
( The French revolution came about with the revolutionary activities in Paris and when Louis XVI was tried and executed. Du Mouriez and a french general seized the whole Austrian Netherlands, and france declares war against England and Holland. Du Mouriez , after invading Holland, attempted to overthrow the french government but failed and fled to Austria. Eventually in 1804 he settled in England where he was granted a pension in return for military advise to the British war office . 1804: the first french empire was formed under Napoleon Bonaparte – the year in which Jacobus went to England to live ).
Charles-François du Périer Dumouriez (25 January 1739 – 14 March 1823) was a French general during the French Revolutionary Wars. He shared the victory at Valmy with General François Christophe Kellermann, but later deserted theRevolutionary Army, and became a royalist intriguer during the reign of Napoleon as well as an adviser to the British government. Dumouriez is one of the names inscribed under the Arc de Triomphe, on Column 3.
Jacobus Adrianus Du Moulin:
Jacobus had studied medicine at Walcheron in Holland, near Flushing.
1804 went to England and became the assitant surgeon to the 5th battalion, 60th Rifle Regiment of foot, April 1804, and Surgeon of the same in 1808.He served at the Peninsula in 1808 and served with Picton’s Division 5th Batallion, 60th Rifles, and took part in 32 engagements. Then Surgeon of the 97th Regiment of foot, 1810.
He was wounded at badajos in Spain when it was stormed by Wellington in 1812. There is a suggestion he was at the seige of Cadiz, 1810 – 1812. These battles were all part of the Peninsula War. He returned to London in 1812.
Jacobus married Jane Davidson(b.31/7/1792- 19/5/1871) on 14/1/1812 in St. Anne’s Limehouse church , Middlesex. Jacobus’s first son James William(1815 – 1854) Records indicate his first son was born 18th June 1815 in a baggage wagon on the field of Waterloo.
marriage jacobus du moulin 1812
-St_Anne_Limehouse church
Jacobus was retired from the army and on half pay in 1813 and 1814.
He went into private practice in Goes , Holland. He worked as a surgeon in Capelle/Kapelle, Holland in 1821. ( Records show he had a mortgage “Woonplaats”( residence), Kapelle. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapelle
1823: Jacobus was awarded an honary medal for charitable assistance for vaccinating 100 people against smallpox out of his own pocket. The medal was likely given to him by Lodewijk Napoleon, Prince of the Netherlands ( a relation of Napleon, Bonarparte). The medal features the word “Heelmeester” ( Village surgeon). “Capelle” is the town( village in South Holland). “Vritjwillig” means of own will.
Du moulin medal 1823 in storage at the victorian museum
1831: Jacobus was a volunteer surgeon with the Dutch army, he was at the battle of Hasselt ,August 1831 against the Belgian Rebels. He was awarded the Hasselt Cross for voluntery service given by William 1st.
Prince of Orange leading the dutch army at the battle of Hasselt.
| Date | 2–12 August 1831 |
|---|---|
| Location | Flanders, Belgium |
| Result | Belgian victory;
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From August 1830 there was anti dutch rioting in Brussels. The Belgians declared independence from Holland in October 1830. 2nd August 1831: The Prince of Orange led 36,000 dutch troops and 72 guns into Belgium. On the 12th August , 1831: Orange defeated the Belgiums – who eventually got their independence.
Battle of Leuven (1831)
| Part of the Ten Days’ Campaign | |
 Victory near Leuven; 12 August 1831 |
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| The Battle of Leuven was a battle of the Ten Days’ Campaign during the Belgian Revolution. The battle took place on 12 August and officially ended on 13 August 1831. The Dutch army defeated the Belgian rebels,[1] but were forced to withdraw in order to avoid war with France, as a large French army under Maréchal Gérard had crossed the border to support the Belgian rebels. They concluded a truce with the Belgians, allowing them to take the city for a few hours on 13 August. |
hasselt cross 1831
This Hasselt Cross,(1830 -1831)of Jacobus Adrianus is in the Melbourne Museum ( in storage) and it says on one side: “W” for King Wihelm, 1st, and on the opposite side 1830-1831 ‘Loyal to King and Country”. The navy blue and orange ribbon is original. The cross was made from bronze melted down from two cannons captured at the battle. The cross was given out to soldiers and volunteers for their participation in the 10 day campaign at Hasselt. ( now located in Belgium Limburg).
Back to England !
In 1833 he joined the British army again as assistant surgeon to the 50th Regiment and sailed on the “Roslyn Castle” which departed England 27/5/1834 and arrived in Sydney Australia 15/9/1834. He brought his 11 children, wife and mother in law , Grace Davidson born 1767.( Grace ‘s name is/was on the tombstone in the old Perouse cemetary . ( Headstones were removed from the first cemetary in George St. Sydney ).(The surgeon on the ship was Robert Espie and the master of the ship was William Ritchie.)
http://www.jenwilletts.com/convict_ships_r.htm#Roslin Castle34
With him and his wife, Jacobus came with a large number of children :
- Guillame (1821-1894) m. Emily Fearon,
- Heindrik (1821-1900)- twin with Guillame,
- James William (1815-1854 m. Frances Olgivie (b.1836 NSW),
- Pieter Nicolas (1825-1886) m. Margaret Jane Druitt,
- Jacoba Henrietta Maria Johanna (1831-1911)m. Charles Weaver,
- Grace Adriana (1823-1890) m. Christoper Fearon and W. Wheeler,
- Eliza b Australia 1836-1916 m. William Montgomery,
- Sarah A. Jane(1830-1889)m. William Foster and Matthew Macalister,
- James Andrew (1832-1891)m. Mary Bowen,
- Charlotte Johanna (1814-1877) m. Henry Gutton(b1809, Matlaske, Norfolk, England) married 28/3/1837 in Windsor , NSW,
- John Peter **(1816-1901 New Zealand)m. Mary T.Tighe,
- Cornelius Anthony (1828-1896)m. J. Pingram and Theresa Mc Donnall.( governess).
- Also Georges b. Holland 1820.There is evidence that Hendrik d.1820 Kapelle.
** JP Du Moulin arrived New Zealand 1839- served in the Heke war 1845 & native wars in Wellington province &at Wanganui. Also at Taranakiwra of 1860& Waikato compaign of 1863-4.After the Waikato campaign JP retired from service . JP had one son -major Louis Du Moulin – 1st royal sussex regiment serving in South Africa. At the garrison of Potter’s Paddock ( then auckland racecourse) JP was a gentleman rider in the 1840’s. in military sports
Jacobus A Du Moulin cont :
We know little of his work or life in Sydney except the story is he worked with the unfortunate and sick in Sydney slums. He was stationed in Windsor( to 1837) at Regimental headquarters, when not in the surgeon’s quarters in Paramatta.
He had one child in Australia , Eliza, who lived in Sale , Victoria. Jacobus supposedly worked in the slums in Sydney and may have contracted scarlet fever. He died on the 14th January 1839 at the surgeon’s quarters near the Military hospital at 62 years old. His funeral was conducted by Rev. J. D. Lang, a prominent Presbyterian minister. Cause of death was “erysipelas” which according to the medical dictionary is a painful infection of the skin, caused by streptococci – the same bacteria as scarlet fever.
Lang, John Dunmore (1799-1878)
(Rev. John Dunmore Lang was instrumental in bringing the first German missionaries to Moreton Bay. He was one of the movers and shakers of colonial Australia, slightly controversial, and with an eye for opportunity and a great deal of conviction and energy. He was a Scottish preacher, politician and patriot, who fought a number of social justice battles in Australia.)
According to Eric Sinfeld of the friends of Rookwood, Jacobus was interned from the original Sydney old burial grounds grave site in 1901( Old Sydney Burial ground – Sandhills/Devonshire Street) , to La Perouse Presbyterian Cemetary.
Sydney old burial grounds 1840’s
However, it has been discovered that casket no. 585 is not buried there. It has been suggested that his final resting place may be in the churchyard of the small old wooden church situated 1/2 miles away from the La Perouse church. There are no head stones or records unfortunately.
la perouse church
Jacobus was buried in the Perouse Cemetary with Capt. Henry Gutton, Louisa Jane Gunton, Grace Gunton and Harry T. Gunton together with the remains of Grace Davidson who died 3/5/1838( Jacobus’s mother in law).
His wife Jane went to Gippsland Victoria after his death, possibly following her daughter Sara to Gippsland.
Jacobus indicated he wanted to be a free settler and in 1838 obtained a 60 acre grant at Castle Hill, known as the Buckridge Grant? He lived there for many years. (Daniel Buckridge was a convict sentenced at 16 in 1791 to transportation for life, he died in 1834 – he was granted a pardon in 1812 when he lived at Pitt Town). Castle Hill is located 31 km north west of the Sydney city centre .
He died shortly after leaving Jane with 13 children . ( nine of whom were dependent on her support). Jane’s petition for a grant of land of 800 acres in lieu of 200 pounds which her husband was entitled to, was unsuccessful.
From a letter from Jane dated 16th June 1839 to the Right Honorable Lord Hill , Commander in chief of her majesty’s army: ‘that at the time of his lamented decease, it was declared intention of our memorialist’s late husband to retire from the Army in a short time and to commence his pursuits as a settler, claiming remission in his purchase of crown lands in wich an officer in the army he was entitled under government regulations…. was entitled as a surgeon in the army of upwards of twenty years service was 200 pounds being equal to 800 hundred acres of land at the minimum price of five shillings per acre…. And your Memorialist will every pray etc. etc. Jane Du Moulin”.
Response: 16th Nov. 1839: Lord Russell to Sir George Gipps( Despatch no.43 per ship Mangles)….”I beg you will express to the Memorialist my sincere regret that it is not in my power to depart from the Established Regulations in her favour”.
In 1842 it was shown that Jane Du Moulin had under cultivation 7 acres of land yielding oats and hay. In 1839 the property passed to the eldest son?, James William Du Moulin . (James had land later on in Wollombi, and we don’t know what happened to the land in Sydney).
Jane Du Moulin grave ,Sale
Some of this information has come from Cessnock Historical Society, of which some may also have come from ‘The Settlers Of West Pennant Hills Valley” by Gwen Millhouse.
Stubbs Family History 
I find this fascinating and very helpful. I am researching my family name ‘Demaline’ and am a very distant relative, a descendant of Pierre du Moulin b1568 – I think! Congratulations on all your hard work. Best wishes, Sharon Demaline, Lancashire, England.
Thanks sharon, this blog started as a way to not flood my brothers with tons of family stuff. it is a great project and i am glad too that people all over the world are enjoying it.
Jennifer
thanks again, i am not sure if the first reply went through. jen
I am blown away with this information. Jacobus is my gt gt gt grandfather. But I know only snippets of information about him. I have 19th century photo of the painting thats shown on your website and also a family bible that originates from my gt grandmother Regien Jane du Moulin (married name Gourlay) daughter of Cornelius Anthony du Moulin.
Doug Fotheringham Adelaide
Hey thanks for the info. did you have any further info that i can put on the blog? I tried to find out where cornelius du moulin was buried but came to a dead end unfortunately. Jen
I am another gt grandson of Regein Jane Du Moulin – via her daughter Grace Gladys Gourlay, married name Foulis. One of the extended Du Moulin connections, who was living near my mother at Mt Eliza, Victoria, has in her possession one of the officers epaulettes from the army uniform of Jacobus Du Moulin which was passed down through her branch of the family.
I also remember my grandmother Grace Gladys, or her sister, Alexandra Federata, having a (probably photographed) colour copy of the Jacobus Du Moulin portrait above.
Very Revd Abbot Joachim
Nice to hear from you. Do you have a photo of the epaulette? And perhaps you might be able to obtain one and email it to me ? my email is stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com.
Regards,
Jennifer
wonderful information. I am creating my family and it goes back on the DuMoulin side to Denis Dumoulin 1390-1447. Unfortunately i’m having a hard time confirming anything beyond that. My family name was Demaline and had changed many times over the years from the original DuMoulin. I’m anxious to hear from anyone with information.
Thanks
Karen
Hi Karen,
I had a difficult time with the very early du moulins. Particulary since it was in france or holland that they originated.
I also noticed the name changed around a few times and sometimes the same person was described with du moulin or demaline. I am not sure why.
All i could do was cruise the internet and get what i could from ancestry .com. However, they did not go very far back. Mundia .com was helpful for the australian connection. I suspect that one would have to try to do research in England in order to get to the bottom of it. I wonder too, prior to the time you described what was recorded in europe at that time.
I would concentrate on where denis was born and try to find du moulins recorded in that area possibly through a dutch /french site.
Cheers .
Jennifer
Denys du Moulin is of the Moulins of St. Torin
He is the g-father of Pierre du moulin
Line starts with a Armin and then Hue .
Hue is Denys 3rd or 4rth g-gpa
Hue was the lord of said place and carries the coat of arms as Pierre
The preacher of protestant church of France.
Denys father was Jean
This should get you back to the 13th century
thanks
Hello, I found your record most interesting. Following up on family history in Auckland New Zealand, I’ve been researching the life of John Peter du Moulin (1816-1901). Quite an eventful life, goldmining, property development as well as his army and surveying career. Do you have a record of his marriage to Mary Teresa Tighe? or the birth of their children? I’d be happy to pass on some of what I have…by direct email most usefully. Look forward to corresponding. Brian Davis in Auckland
Thanks so much.
I do not have any records of births or marriage for John Peter Du Moulin. I pieced together from newspaper articles I believe and any ancestry I can find on line. if you have anything you can scan and email to me that would be lovely. Thanks Brian.
please email me directly at stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com
jennifer
Not sure how I happened to find this page, but so glad I did.
I’m newish to this genealogy stuff but think I have the links from my wife’s family (“Dimaline”) through to the Du Moulins.
Dimaline (and Dimberline) seemed to break away from the Demalines in the mid 1700s.
Jamie
http://bit.ly/14Q4pKB
Glad you enjoyed the blog. Sounds like it is feasible that this family broke off from the du Moulin’s. wonder if it was for religious reasons.
Charlotte Johanna (1814-1877) m. Henry Gutton,
This should be Henry Gunton b1809 Matlaske, Norfolk, England.Henry married Charlotte 28 Mar 1837 in Windsor NSW.
Thanks
thanks, i really appreciate any input. I’m working on validating all the information that was there.
thanks again
How are they related to Abraham?
Can you expand your question ?
I have not looked at this post for several years and not quite sure what you are meaning ?
I am also from the Moulin line , But I do not believe this one .
In any case I am sure from the Netherlands .I have studied Charles du Moulin for some time I do believe he is related to the Bullen of Belgium and possible a Eustace du Moulin sad to be a knight of this family ( Moulin La Guierre )
The du Moulin are linked to the (de) des Moulin as well as the Italian family Molise .
There is not enough info for the years 1140 to 1400 to confirm this completely just small bits and pieces.
In you line there is quit a few Pierre ‘s listed this would be interesting because one of my greats is named as such .
Not to intercede but I believe Jennifer in an earlier post was asking about an Abraham Moulin who came to this country in 1700 his father was also Abe and his Wolfgang and his Pierre thus is my line also.
In your long search if you happen to come across these Moulin I would be most pleased if you could inform the members of this line of Moulin .
In fact i will keep a look out for yours also .
You also have a Denis Moulin related to Charles he was the Bishop of Paris ……………
Happy Hunting
Michael
i can keep an eye out. So we are assuming the moulin line came from france ? then moved to places like Netherlands . i will take a look around for Abraham moulin. I will also refresh my memory on the line also as it has been a while .
my email is stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com
jennifer
Actually I have found at least 4 families that are associated with Charles and Denis du Moulin . Note, to my surprise there is more than one family associated with the name Moulin and all are not related . I suspect the early du Moulin may be linked to des Moulin la Marche . This person Guitmund was a Bishop in Bec which is said that Eustace comes from .
I guess if this helps the du Moulin can be found from north to south just follow the Rhine River . I can say that two distinct branches emerge from this name in that one was Protestant and the other Catholic . And the du Moulin name can be found just about anywhere as your family has shown
We have to have caution when mention of nations because they are not the same as we have them today but I find it easier to associate with todays borders . But Normandy, Holland . Alsace , Belgium , and southern Germany , as well as France hold quite a lot of info on du Moulin . The name in its self is Norman . .
this is very cool thanks . sorry i don’t check my blog very often.
It seems this particular line of Charles , Joachim , and Pierre the divine seem to stem from
the Dutch province of Bradant . ( Maline )
They were known as the Lords of Millighem under Phillip the Bold .
Thanks ever so much !!!!
Hi there
Micbhael i am wondering how you are fairly sure this Maline bradant line is this du moulin ?
Thanks.
I can not connect with names yet but this is what I have found
I started with a Jacques du Moulin 1451 his line called their selves DITS du Moulin .
His line is Guillaume du Moulin 1418 who married Lady Louis de Carondelet Lady of Aubois.
This Guillaume ( William ) was of the family who were the Lords of Millighem in Antwerp Bradant / Maline.
Who has a common ancestor by the name of Stassart ( Cornelis Jan Van der Meulen ) which he changed his name to from du Moulin 1466 also a Daniel du Moulin did the same 1600 not sure why but it has to do with religion and moving to Holland.
The oldest I could find from this line is Pierre du Moulin 1253 also another Pierre 1286 and a Jean 1350.
An interesting point came up when I was researching and that is the above are associated with 2
families , the Moulin Mignaux and Moulin Lorme Grenier .
These families point towards the des Moulin La Marche line of 990.
When researching Jean Dennys and Charles du Moulin they are said to come from the same lines Also Ann and Elisabeth (Queen) Boleyn have both stated that Denys and Charles are of family as cousins thru a Eustace du Moulin . Now it is mention that Jacobus of this forum is related to Charles and the “Dits ” are also . Another is a Pierre du Moulin who married Marie Surcamp sorry no date and is associated with King Charles of France . I have quite a few names but will have to revisit my notes
It seems Jacobus was a doctor of some sorts like his father before him.
Anyway I ran across this while searching for my Abraham du Moulin and thought I would share what I have found . Depending on occupation at the time such as the 80yr.war ( Spanish ) the name Moulin went by a few such as Molin , Mollen , Meulen, de’lan and Molendarus so this can be confusing at times ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Still searching ….. I hope this helps?…………………………………………………………………………………
An interesting note ,
Joachim the father of Pierre the Devine went by Maline when he escaped to Scotland during St. Bartholomew . So where does it start or end for that matter…………………………………………………..
Michael Mullen
theresamullen@rocketmail.com
this is amazing i will take a look
So and update is due:
Eustace du Moulin was a Knight of the tower of Neaufle of Neuf Chateau sur Epte
Now this is interesting because we are talking of two families of Moulin .
It seems the Moulin of England Known as the Mulanaux ( Moline) came back to restore the castle of Robert the Devil ( they are the cousins of King William 1066 and the du Moulin also ! ) They restored the properties of the castle and surrounding churches and properties once owned or manage by a one Guitmond des Moulin la Marche . a monk who wrote and sung songs for St Maria ( A church )
When William asked Guitmund des Moulin la Marche to gain control of Normandy and England he refused .. Latter Guitmund Gave the Castle of Robert the Devil which he was in charge of to France and his sons conspired to over throw William this made William furious. .
William banished them to Italy but Guitmund and at least one son went to Bradant / Antwerp ,
William forced Alebreda the daughter of this Guitmund to marry his cousin William de Falaise
and in return he became de Falaise des Moulin la Marche by title
And he displaced the property of des Moulin to his liking to include the church of St.Evroult of Maheru During the rebuild of dynasty King Henry of England dispatched Eustace du Moulin a cousin of the Mulanaux ( a Grand son of Guitmund ) to rebuild theTower of Neaufle and reopen the Chateau of such .
Latter on this is called the tower of Ann and Elisabeth Queens of England and this is why they claim that Denis and Charles du Moulin are of family as distant cousins or should I say are.
Now Eustace had a son named Pierre And is the start of the Maline / Dutch / Millighem branch of Charles and Denis du Moulin lines .
I am not
sure but Guitmund had 8 sons I found 6 that went to Italy so that leaves 2 of the original family the others are by title thru the de Falaise connection . to include Simon who died on the wreck of the White Ship and had no issue his brother Robert was also sent to Italy his mother was Doda Mulan the second wife under the title of de Falaise des Moulin la Marche .
Michael Mullen
The Mystery :
To include myself as well as others , I believe this is where we get lost .
The Lorme Grenier family and the Mignaux family
As the same the younger and older family.
As in the same Charles du Moulin the jurist and Charles Dumoulins of Bru.
As in Brie sours Forges or Bru sours Forges .
As in Queen Ann or not as cousin
As in Eustace du Moulin or Hugues du Moulin
So the modern thought is Charles ( the Jurist ) is the ancestor of Pierre the Devine and the latter was Denys ( the Bishop of Paris ).
The Lorme Grenier line can be found just south of Paris . This line is associated with Denys his son Jean his son Philippe also Jacques , Guilliaume, Anthoine , Maria, Catherine, and Charlorre .
The latter known as Dit du Moulin or even as Mills .
The Mignaux are from Lorraine ( Alsace) and from here we have Joachim ( Charles II ) and Joachim II and of course Pierre the Devine or do we ?????. In one study Joachim is of the younger and if so is he a cousin or brother of Charles ( The Jurist ) ???
This is important when studying this family basically you have the northern ( Eustace) and the Southern ( Hugues) families . Now not meaning this actually but the Hugues line can be found in Toulouse with a Pierre du Moulin brother of Denys as the Vice Chancelior de Languedoc 1419 . For me and my line of Abraham Moulin this is promising.
And so it is here that these 2 great families parted understanding on which historian or document you wish to choose will become the out come of your research………………………………………..
Again the 12th and 13th centuries hold the key…
So Jennifer for me and for now this is where I end or should I say concluded
I hope this helps……
Michael Mullen
Hi Jennifer,
I’m currently researching my wife’s family history and have come to an dead end with a lady called Maria Josephine Du Moulin. She married a fella called James Drew, formerly of Bermondsey London, at St James Church in Sydney in 1848. I can’t determine any specific connections with your Du Moulins, but there is one very interesting co-incidence. Her husband James Drew arrived in Sydney in 1838 on the same ship as Charles Thomas Weaver (The John). Weaver married Jacoba Henrietta Maria Johanna Du Moulin, as you have recorded.
Have you ever come across this lady or have you any ideas that might help me.
It would be very much appreciated if you could help.
Regards,
Brad
Hi Brad i think i might have replied to you ? did I ?
jennifer, my email is stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com
Yes Jennifer you did respond thanks. I subsequently found out that Maria was born in Paris. It was disclosed on one of the kids birth records. I haven’t made much progress beyond that though.
Regards,
Brad
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Hello again;
So thank you for including me in your forum . I noticed something that stood out to me
that I never considered .
And that is the different family crest .
As you may know I am from the des Moulin line which is the Moline with gules
I have found at least 7 of such crest but all are near or after 1300 . That stem from des Moulin La Marche . most are not related.
Interesting is the fact that the Molise is different which is the Griffin ( Hugo II ) And the county of Molise ( Bojano) sports the 3 lions of William the King ???? .
To me this supports the fact that there is more than one Moulin Family .
So based on this a little history on this subject on my part is needed .
In my family name of Moulin, the last 15 years has been that we are related to Pierre du Moulin.
But no one has every made the final connection. If documents are correct it seems my line was more south than the traditional notion .
Now thru my family of grand -pa’s and great aunts we called our self Black- Dutch .
Which in a nut shell means French , Dutch , German ,and Jewish . This is based on the history of Belgium as told today . I use this as a reference .
What is interesting is the family of Sutton also sports the Moline . in fact a lot of families that began
in Normandy do the same .
Now some times the Lion is also called the Eagle . And again this can be found in the du Moulin line . Another researcher compiles that the Moulin name is part of the family line of Dinners and its beginnings starts in Georgia Russia . I would love to quote these persons but do not want to infringe on their comments or works . Remember I am still in works myself.
But I would like to ask you for a little help on this subject at least a second opinion .
Thank you
Michael Mullen
I have read the above with great interest and note that Abraham crops up a lot. My eldest ancestor if that is the right description is Jehan Dumoulin b.1628 and married Margaret Catherine Legrain in Sandtoft on 1/1/1650. They had three children, my line runs from Isaac b.1679. One of their 6 children was a Abraham born 2-3-1711. He in turn married Elizabeth Briggs in Crowle 1736. They had 7 children, the youngest Abraham b.1757. He in turn married Jane Wilkinson on 16-7-1781. Guess what, his eldest son was named Abraham, one of four children b.1782 and he married Mary Asdhton 12-9-1803. They had ten children, the third eldest b.1809 was named Abraham!!! and he in turn married married Rachel Earnshaw in 1830.
I don’t know whether this is of help but there certainly were a number of Abrahams around!!!
Hello Michael Dimoline ;
You are right about the name Abraham being pronounced .
The other popular names are Issac and Jacob.
This was most common among the Dutch Walloon during lets say 1550-1740
Basically during the Spanish occupation of such lands.
A lot of males were named after their godfather during baptism .
So this is a good indicator of such heritage.
The Moulin name is from an occupation and some families used the name as theirs
and some did not but by the 1200s this changed and two basic lines emerged .
And as time passes this enlarges a hundred fold .
Not all Moulin families are related this is due to feudalism , out of wedlock , title ,
and orphan to say a few ……………………………………………………………………………
If your family crest uses the Moline ( cross ) or the griffon, or swan , or the banner
of the Goz ( Guise) such as the Italian Molise and many more.
these coat of arms will explain the different families and their origins.
For instance Pierre du Moulin the preacher his was a
blue shield with a black cross and a gold sea shell in the center of the cross.
My Abraham des Moulin his was a red shield with a gold cross
In 1066 William the future king of England had a white shield with a blue boarder
and a blue cross and for dots or bores surrounding the cross .
Roger du Moulin the knight who is a Limousin du Moulin had the cross with bores.
The Waterhouse line which comes from the Limousin had the wheel and spokes which are cross like…………………………………………………………………………………………………………
In my line the combination of Wolfgang and his son Abraham really stands out
I believe this to be one of a kind.
In any situation I would say during and after the 1600s we have a change again
now we have surnames such as yours and mine
And basically anywhere in the world ……………………………………………………..
My post on Ancestry has been updated since it was posted here
It will explain more about coat of arms
Happy hunting ……………………………………………………………………………………………
This is absolutely fascinating . Please stay in touch. stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com
Hello there. I think your family tree details have indirectly appeared on my own, Sara Jacoba du Moulin is my 4th great grand mother. This through her daughter with Samuel Hull Wilcocke; Emilia Josephina which name stayed around down the generations as an important female name later anglicised to Amelia Josephine. Another of their children had the name Elizabeth Adrianna. So I am guessing there is some connection with the Zeeland branch of the family you describe. She was born about 1769 and they married in the Netherlands in 1769 – as far as I can tell. Would be greatly interested in any further info you have. Very interesting blog. Thx
hello unfortunately i do not really tend to this blog anylonger . ancestry is most likely the best bet Jen
Well I am happy that you are not upset for this mistake .
I will be happy to subscribe to your interest in this subject .
I do not claim to be part of this Moulin line on this web site . But in my quest for answers
I came across this site and noticed some similarities in that some matches my own research.
It was not till family crest came up that the so called picture became noticed.
In that I am in debt to this site for this revelation …………….
thanks
Hi,
I haven’t read through everything yet, but I, too, am a descendant of Jacobus du Moulin from Brugge/Schoondijke, and I would like to point you toward a possible (transcription?) error wrt his wife Esther. She was NOT, as far as I now know, named ‘DECRE’ but rather ‘TESSIER’, as I found in the Dutch East India (VOC) log for son Jacobus du Moulin, who died June 16, 1776 in Asia (you mentioned him). In the log he is mentioned as being from Schoondijke, and in three instances it is noted that his earnings should be paid out to his “mother Ester Tessier”. Once I was set on this track I researched the name Tessier in the Zeeland archives, and indeed found confirmation in the form of papers wrt the death of Pierre (aka Pieter) TESSIER in 1742. The documents mention his children, and among them is daughter Esther, married to Jacobus du Moulin. A sister Adriana is married to Bernardus du Moulin, possibly a brother to Jacobus.
Pierre Tessier (1669-1742) was an important member & representative of the French/Wallone (Hugenot) community in l’Ecluse/Sluis in Zeeland. He possibly married Elisabet GEERZYN in 1704; presumably another Hugenot, but so far I have been unable to find the original French name.
Hope all this helps you in further tracking down the family.
Kind regards, Saskia
this is really interesting thanks
Hello,
I know you have responded to previous messages letting people know that you no longer attend to this blog, however I thought I might add some info I have recently discovered.
The Andrew du Moulin, Lieutenant in the 43rd regiment, that you have referred to as a brother of Jacobus Adrianus, I believe (like Peter David) is not so!
I have come across various documents including birth, death, marriage, children and an obituary and am convinced that he is the son of an Oliver John du Moulin and Mary Browne.
I hope this can help anyone who comes along!
thanks
I also am a descendant of James Andrew duMoulin through his son Cornelius A. M Jemima Pingram and Teresa McDonnall. I have been researching for 30 yrs. Have a lot of B D M’s and photos and have travelled extensively in Australia provenancing this info. And getting photographic evidence, Most of the Australian info. Is correct. Thanksa
Thanks and great to hear Jill . is there anything you can share photo wise that i might be able to upload to the site . ? My email is stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com. thanks
Jill Giese , your name is familiar. Did you know my mum Joan stubbs? please keep in contact with me my email is stubbsjennifer3@gmail.com. I do not go onto my site very often these days. And i would be thrilled to get some more info you have thanks
This is really fascinating and has had me hooked for hours now. I’ve been trying to build my family tree for some time now and I’ve never been sure where my tree began.